2023 City Budget Hearing [Overview] AFTERNOON

Chicago City Council
Finance
Politics

Thursday, Oct. 6, 2022
1:00 p.m. — 6:00 p.m. CDT

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121 N LaSalle St Chicago, IL 60602 (Directions)

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This is the first of 12 days of departmental budget hearings. It will feature overview presentations from the following city officials:

  • Susie Park, Budget Director - Office of Budget and Management
  • Jennie Huang Bennett, Chief Financial Officer
  • Reshma Soni, City Comptroller - Department of Finance

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Reporting

Edited and summarized by the Chicago - IL Documenters Team

Live reporting by Isabelle Stroobandt

Fines and fees reform, Department of the Environment

Izzy Stroobandt

Good afternoon, Chicago! I’m starting up a new thread for the later half of today’s 2023 City Budget Hearings for @CHIdocumenters

Everyone is on a lunch break right now, but we will be getting started soon at around 1:15pm

Follow along! ⬇️🧵

01:07 PM Oct 6, 2022 CDT

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If you’re interested in opening statements or the first round of questioning, see my earlier thread here: https://twitter.com/izzystroobandt/status/1578022241601613824?s=46&t=wVVxkEmH5wR4Kr4CMjZhjw

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To refresh, answering questions today on the proposed budget for 2023 are:
1) Susie Park, Budget Director - Office of Budget and Management
2) Jennie Huang Bennett, Chief Financial Officer
3) Reshma Soni, City Comptroller - Department of Finance

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During the first round, committee members had 10 minutes each to ask questions.

This time they’re limited to five minutes and many have already passed on a second round, so the afternoon portion of the meeting should be a lot quicker than this morning.

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We’re back at 1:20pm, folks!

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Ald Jason Ervin, Ward 28, up first

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Ervin: What is our total debt load?

Huang Bennett: Approx $26b

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Ervin: I thought we already appropriated money for Chicago Works?

Huang Bennett: We did, what we’ve done is funded those projects as they spend — we put in place a line of credit that we take out with that permanent financing

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Ervin: Shifting gears to risk management — what’re we looking at in workers comp side and overall risk that have accrued cost to the city? How are we learning?

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Soni: Mayors office has enterprise risk management group that evaluates across many departments what risk were exposed to, whether it’s IT or public safety

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Soni: We work closely with law and police department to identify things that we have in place already that mitigate risk and present that to insurance companies

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Soni: From worker’s compensation perspective, were looking at overall ways to mitigate risk on the front end

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Soni: We can do work on the back end, but now since environmental health and safety is within the Dept of Finance were able to work with them more routinely as a part of overall reduction of injuries

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Ervin: What’re we doing locally within departments to mitigate risk?

Soni: Every department has a safety officer —

Ervin: Well it’s not really a safety specific issue, that’s part of it, but other aspects of liability that we can look at that goes beyond that

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Soni: The approach the Mayors office has taken is “top-down” so there’s someone whose responsible with making a plan for how to approach the problem

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Moving to non members

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Ald Samantha Nugent: What’re we trying to accomplish with the broadband project?

Huang Bennett: It was originally largely for CPS students and were trying to expand it.

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Nugent: Please add me to the list of people in support of a “freestanding department of Environment”

“we’ve had catastrophic damage” from the storms and we need federal assistance

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Ald Felix Cardona Jr: For affordable housing, it’s $155m, correct?

Park: Coming from the Chicago Recovery Plan, yes

Cardona Jr: What was it last year?

Park: Everything is carrying over

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Cardona Jr: Is pilot program for tiny homes coming from that?

Park: Coming from a portion of that funding

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Cardona Jr: I used to work in accounting, we were thinking about tiny homes in 2012 and it got shut down, but I think it’s a great investment for affordable housing, but I don’t think $3m is enough — i think you’re going to need to put a little bit more

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Cardona Jr; Will there be electrical or plumbing?

Park: My understanding is yes, but Comm Navaro is better versed

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Cardona Jr: “I’m so happy you guys are doing that” … could be a great use for the vacant lots

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Ald Sophia King: What are you proposing for violence intervention this year?

Park: $16m specifically for violence intervention is in the Chicago Recovery Plan

King: I was referring to kind of, globally… The $16m is coming from the new ARP funds?

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Park: Yes

King: Of last years $85m, how much did we spend?

Park: Just on the violence prevention dollars, it looks like we’re carrying over about $80m

King: So we spent $5m?

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Park: There was no intention that that $85m would be spent in a year

King: Where and by who?

Park: CDPH and I can provide a breakdown through the chair

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King: How much did we spend on the Alternative response program?

Park: The initial pilot for CARE was funded through corporate funds, $2m — they’re moving into an expansion now that will start the CRP money.

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King: How much is allocated for 2023?

Park: $16m for the expansion

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King: When will that scale up?

Park: Better question for Arwady

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Ald Derrick Curtis, 18 ward: Will the micro grants program continue from 2022?

Park: Yes, sorry it’s been bumpy, the full $5m we set aside last year is reappropriated. Not meant to restart the process but give people who applied more time.

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Curtis: We’ve been talking about this for years - the larger wards are underserved in comparison to smaller wards because of a larger amount of roads and infrastructure. Who will make the final decision and will there ever be time we get more funding?

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Park: That’s a convo we can have, need to find an equitable way.

Dowell: That’s been a topic of discussion for many years, perhaps it’s a time to pull together a work group so we can put it to bed

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Ald Walter Burnett Jr: I’m concerned about the TIF surplus

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Park: We are taking $98m — one of the largest surpluses we’ve done. We’re using the same methodology as the past and going through to see what isn’t connected to projects.

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Ald Maria Hadden: “We need a coordinated response for homelessness,” … “We talked about this two years ago, I’m a bit frustrated at not having a plan”

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Hadden: “We should not be dealing with this on a Ward by Ward basis”

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Hadden: Why aren’t we declaring this an emergency? Can we look at declaring an emergency around homelessness? Or around needing shelter?

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Hadden: “It’s really striking for me to see so little of the funds going to use, to know that a shelter proposal in my ward isn’t going to be open until June” when we could’ve purchased this building in the summer if an emergency had been declared

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Hadden: We see lake shore flooding, we see the rain that’s happening …

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Hadden: “Another reason we need a Department of the Environment — not just a office to the mayor but a department responsible to us and the entire city — is because it’s not just the immediate material impacts we need to think of”

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Hadden: Maybe we should be rethinking using basement floors and garden units — I had a lot of residents who didn’t just lose stuff, they have 6-8 inches of water in their home and they’re no longer going to be able to sell in the future at the same rate as before.

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Hadden: Another thing are the heat waves — Department of Buildings is wonderful, helped us very quickly address low hanging fruit — “but we need people devoted to thinking about the future … we’re already behind,”

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Ald Anthony Beale, 9th ward: What’s the total one time revenue source?

Huang Bennett: TIF is the only one time revenue source and that’s $98m

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King: Why is federal money not one time?

Huang Bennett: You’re right — that would be one time. $152m

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Ald Jeanette Taylor, 20: I’m gonna echo about an office of senior services … “It’s hilarious to me that we run the seniors during election time but in between we ain’t too much concerned, so they’re living in buildings that aren’t in the best condition,”

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Taylor: “One of the biggest problems I see is we do silo work… The right hand don’t know what the left hand is doing and in between that our constituents are getting left out,”

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Taylor: for postage, it went from $46k to $100k — “what are y’all mailing?”

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Soni: This is all related to billing — more mailings for Clear Path Relief program and administrative hearings debt relief … a lot of people don’t have access to computers so it’s helpful for them to have a reminder, and for records

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Taylor: Reimbursement for travel — where y’all going?

Soni: Driving risk management people around the city, training

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Ald Matt Martin, 47th ward: Starting with a list of through the chair questions:
- 311 requests by ward
- 311 ward by ward breakdown of miles of streets, sidewalks, alleys, # of street lights
- comparison of staffing for offices of financial analysis in 10 largest US cities …

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Martin: I’d also like to see a projected TIF surplus for 2024, an itemized breakdown of improved revenue projections, enforcement and fund sweeps

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Martin: Shifting to the Office of the Environment — “It’s really important to underscore we’re not talking about future planning, we’re talking about present planning.”

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Martin: The city has a lot pending right now that are promising, “but we’re not going to do that successfully without a built out department”

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Martin: “To essentially rebrand something that already exists and then add one person isn’t really sufficient”

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Martin: Can you provide anything in writing stating implicitly or implying what could prompt a ratings downgrade? through the chair

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Ald Daniel La Spata, 1st Ward: There are some troubling vacancies here… 500 in Dept Pub Health, 1,669 in police, 340 streets and san, 319 in CDOT

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La Spata: How do we determine this?

Park: It’s important to note that those numbers change every day. We have filled close to our total of last year already and the fourth quarter is generally the highest hiring rate

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La Spata: Whats happening to the three TIFs due to expire at the end of this year?

Park: All will be extended I believe

La Spata: Council will still have to approve that, right?

Park: We will get back through the chair on that

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We’re about to start round two (everything up to now was either people who came late, non members).

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Starting with Ald Rodriguez:

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Rodriguez: Are we looking to increase premiums for health care insurance?

Soni: We look at overall increases in salaries to make sure things are on par, at this point we’re not looking at any further increases

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Rodriguez: re: Infrastructure spending on the SW side — Where can we look for infrastructure support?

Park: We passed through council in 2021 the first of a two year capital program — $1.4m — because we were really behind on deferred maintenance

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We’re gonna stand at ease for five minutes for a court reporter break. 🥲

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We’re back now — Starting with Ald. Lee

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Lee: Agree with Dept of Environment, I wish I had one more full time person to put on senior services. In particular, language accessibility is huge for us — so I really need two.

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Lee: We’ve talked before about wage compression and that being an ongoing challenge — Are we going to hear more?

Park: Part of this is the imbalance stems from union staff getting incremental increases as the non union staff was not — there’s work going on right now around that

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Lee: How many 311 calls do we get for parking enforcement? I get a lot of calls, obviously I have the White Sox as well — How many calls vs citations issued?

Dowell: Can we get that for all the wards?

Park: Through the chair

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Huang Bennett: There is a need for more parking enforcement officials

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Ald Moore: Where is the amount budgeted for electronic speed display monitors? and how much?

Park: I believe we’re starting some of that this year and it’s coming from capital funding — will go through the chair

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Moore: A couple of police officers in my ward had proposals for the alternate response / CARES program based on how much time they spend in hospitals with people

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Park: There is work being done to look at alternate locations to take people that best serve the person they’re transporting — not everyone needs to go to the ER, to your point

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Ald Osterman: Can we have an analysis on staffing for community commission on public safety and accountability?

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Osterman: If you can make sure that those mountains are moving, because they can’t function if they don’t have the staff

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Ald Hairston: For office of public safety — how do you distinguish that from police and CAPS?

Park: They take on administrative functions — hiring, paying bills, procurement — for all safety departments (police, fire, OAMC)

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Hairston: How many grant positions do you have?

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Hairston: Have they been billed for the positions? Who received the grants? And do you have a way of measuring or tracking

Also requests a heat map of where tickets and parking boots are issued within her ward

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Ald Sposato: “Ive always felt, from day one with this job — I don’t know why commissioners are making more money than Alderman..” Now with the last two raises, we’re kinda up there … When commissioners are making $50k more than us.

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Sposato said he’s prepared for that quote to be on the front page of Block Club, Sun-Times and the Tribune tomorrow lol

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Ald Mitts: Have you looked at any way to help families with water leaks? Like a budget plan

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Mitts: How do the various public safety departments intertwine with each other?

Park: Police department would be able to speak more in depth around that

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Mitts: You still have folks on the streets that are still selling marijuana — when did they get to be a low priority? Anyone know or is that a question for the police?

Park: Better for police

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Ald Villegas: I’d love to see in the next couple of months if we could put out some type of RFI to see what’s out here in the technology sector

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Ald Beale: for CTA’s additional $20m — they’ve already increased funding for armed security and canine — why are we doing that?

Park: Thats funding actually coming to us, the old IGA was $10m… That’s money theyre giving to the city for the police department

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Ald Sigcho-Lopez: Water and utility debt — I’m concerned, especially for seniors — Is there an idea of the debt? Or utility costs? Is there a program to help most vulnerable people?

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Soni: We started the Utility Relief Program two years ago, a pilot program, for people who meet the federal poverty level

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Soni: We have 92% of participants who graduated successfully — waived about $6.5m in debt

For utility debt, we had about $300m

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Sigcho Lopez: For victims of violent crime, we see issues with residents who are uninsured accessing resources for trauma — what is allocation for mental health?

Park: $89m in chicago recovery plan for mental health assistance

Sigcho Lopez: And for trauma victim support?

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Huang Bennett: $10m in ARP for victim support funding

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Sigcho-Lopez: Are there any specific funds for permanent housing / shelter? Out of the $200m

Park: Chicago Recovery Plan covers the whole spectrum — so part of it includes shelter and rapid rehousing, and then we do have stabilization housing.

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Sigcho-Lopez: What is allocated to support small businesses?

Park: Last year we had $89m specifically for small businesses, anything not spent out will carry over

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Ald Hadden: I find that I have to make regular requests for areas that should have regular enforcement — what challenges are we still facing to get back to pre pandemic on this?

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Soni: We’re working on hiring, and would want to work with Alders to prioritize enforcement in specific areas

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Hadden: I haven’t had patrol officers for two of my major beats since 2019… I can’t explain anymore to residents how were increasing the police budget and they’re not getting the services they asked for.

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Ald La Spata: The $15.5m in fund sweeps — can you break that down by fund through the chair

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La Spata expresses support for the Department of the Environment — “That can be a Q1 thing that we can work on together”

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H o l y C o w — we’re finally done.

The committee recessed at 4:22pm.

Tomorrows schedule is Office of City Clerk, City Treasurer and Dept of Human Resources, starting at 9am.

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